2008-06-16 00:00:00, ptor
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"The rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious."
"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly . . . it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."
- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda.
In this essay, Ptor challenges the status quo hype of the Global Warming hysteria using reality. Don’t believe the hype!
by Ptor Spricenieks
The climate and continuance of the winter season have always been and always will be a concern to the dedicated skier and the ski industry. In the past few years, the mainstream corporately controlled media has been feeding the public a rather paranoiac and one sided message of an undisputed concensus blaming recent warming trends of the earth’s climate on modern human activity and specifically it’s output of C02. The result has been band-waggoning of great magnitude by many aspects of society including the ski world, as the implied guilt of our fatalistic human habits resonates with the sympathy of concerned citizens. The pollution and destruction of our environment due to human processes are obvious and beyond debate but the mechanism and reality of climate change is not. In this essay, I will discuss the imperative to investigate and see beyond this propaganda of hidden intentions to provide clearer perceptions for the modern skier on the role of humans on the influence of weather and the true workings of nature and climate that we ultimately interact with when we ski.
Note: the links provided below are for reference and entry into personal research on this subject. and are not necessarily deemed by me to be ultimate authorities on the subject nor do they all necessarily reflect my personal viewpoint. It is up to everyone as individuals to educate themselves and decide for themselves. Please look at them in order to follow the logic and leaps in information I am writing.
I myself, as do many others, feel that the public has been seriously misled by a very powerful media campaign, corporate lobby and governmental complicity that has little to do with either sound science or reality for that matter. As such, the good intentions and the general ignorance of people has once again been taken advantage of and abused. Commonplace selectivity and skewing of world events by the handful of interconnected media corporations, is becoming painfully more and more apparent. From the denial of the approaching North American Union, to presidential candidate Ron Paul to 9/11 to Iraq and Afghanistan, we are subject to reality smeared and censored by spin doctors working for the Global Elite in pursuit of their New World Order.
http://www.adbusters.org/the_magazine/72/Fighting_For_Air_An_interview_with_Eric_Klinenberg.html
http://adbusters.org/the_magazine/77/Media_Democracy_on_the_March.html
http://www.netscientia.com/media.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/category/y-2007/
For the last 20,000 years, the massive, kilometers thick continental ice sheets have been melting and retreating. The remnants in the still glaciated mountainous regions make noticeable oscillations back and forth over the centuries. The climate of the planet has always been changing and in even far more dramatic ways, long before the existence of man, than we have experienced or recorded. In fact we presently live in a very calm and functional climatic age. Change has always been and remains the only planetary constant. Now, all of a sudden, (like in the 70’s with the Global Cooling hype), we are being given a massive guilt trip from images of glacial ice crashing into the water (which also happens when glaciers grow ) and polar bears standing on pieces of ice (that can swim long distances and have survived much warmer epochs than the present one). Storms that have always toyed with civilization are being blamed on the farts of human technological shortcomings. Meanwhile, back in realityville, human C02 production is minuscule compared to natural C02 production from the oceans, volcanoes, soil etc. C02 is itself a very minor greenhouse gas compared to water vapor.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2852551.ece?ILC-EVYcomments&ATTR=4test1
http://www.rense.com/general79/d3m.htm
So how did we get to this state of most people, especially those with a green heart, to being hoodwinked so badly. We can start with the chief proponent of this deception, Al Gore. His scam is on par with getting people to believe that cave dwelling muslims outsmarted the most sophisticated defense system on the planet and sidestepped the law of gravity to bring down the World Trade Center buildings. Mr “multi mansion jet setting” Gore has a history of criminal activity that he inherited from his father and is once again up to his usual tricks creating more tax and insider profit for the globalist empire out of another scam.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2444
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3411blood_n_gore.html
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3413carbon_swindle.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/211207_b_gore.htm
But he won the Nobel Peace prize you say. That is but recognition from his peers for doing his little Globalist duty and a perfect way to get everybody’s attention. The Nobel organization is nowhere near as noble as we’ve all been led to believe, once again, when you really look closely. Israeli Prime Ministers propogating Palestinian apartheid have been given the prize while Mahatma Ghandi never recieved one.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7118
So, if you really look closely at Gore’s film, An Inconvenient Truth, it becomes easy to see how he has fabricated and twisted reality for the Globalist’s purposes with the assistance of Hollywood.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62598
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5086
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8147337841241405073&q=Global_Warming_or_Global_Governance&ei=TbEdSNKLL5-w4QLh2cDQAQ
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3309910462407994295&q=Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&ei=2i8nSJyuK6i8igLx3d3jCQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2GaFrUFCVQg
http://infowars.net/articles/october2007/151007Gore_conspiracy.htm
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=in-hot-water
There is actually a great portion of the scientific community that is calling bullshit on the anthrpogenic (man-made) Global Warming thing.
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64734
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=68c9a6c9-4f1d-4fc8-b330-d26c4b56549a
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121207_scientists_shunned.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121107_global_warming.htm
Carbon trading is but a deflection of awareness from pollution itself. Oil companies and other big buisnesses all have vested intests in the carbon trading sceme and are profiting majorly from inflated oil prices and the phony peak oil scare. The market manipulation we are seeing now is not much different than when Margaret Thatcher fell out with the coal mining unions and used the global cooling scare to usher in nuclear development. Herein lies the impetus to shut down the voice of opposition and for the UN to create bogus predetermined protocols like Kyoto and manipulated commisions like the IPCC.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/mick_hume/article4009605.ece
What has now evolved is the Global Warming industry where massive dollars are deflected to nothing but Global Warming related things. Basically this is sidelining proper science and I have met scientists that have entered research programs involving Global Warming because there is no funding for other things. Basically you can get funded to study gopher snot accumulation if it has to do with Global Warming. Scientists and people that oppose this are demonized to the level of Holocost deniers. Then just think of how much CO2 was produced my those silly concerts and rockstars flying all over the place with the globalist heir organizer Rothschild Jr. in the public spotlight. Wake up people!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/280307globalistslove.htm
http://infowars.net/articles/march2008/240308Singer.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/may/26/climatechange.greenpolitics
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/060208_pedophile_rapist.htm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/abc_planet_slayer/
So then what is driving the weather? As Tom Chalmers put it in his Kootenay Mountain Culture piece, our weather systems are chaotic in nature and difficult or impossible to predict and model. Therefore climate change models are fantastical at best and still far too complex to approach any realistic modelling. Meanwhile other planets in our solar system have been warming up as well.
http://www.kmcmag.com/features/KMC12_Ecos.pdf
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65165
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html
http://climate-change.suite101.com/article.cfm/global_warming_venus_and_sunspots
The unifying link is and has always been the sun, that eternal object of worship and giver of life to all on our planet. One little flash from the sun and we are all fried to a crisp. In the realtively steady state of solar activity that permits our inhabitable conditions, there are still fluctuations in solar wind and sunspot activity that have been studied, documented and attributed to climatic effects for many years. Solar winds block out the regular cosmic radiation that assists in atmospheric cloud formation. Piers Corbyn has been generating the most accurate long term weather forecasting available from his calculations based on susnpot cycles. The Mayan calendar is theorized to correlate sunspot cycles. In fact, during our recent hot years in the late 90’s and early 00’s, sunspot actvity was at a maximum and exactly coincided with hotter years.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/army-vs-global.html
http://www.weatheraction.com/
http://www.weatheraction.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=37
http://www.livescience.com/environment/050505_earth_bright.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952624/posts
http://www.firstscience.com/home/articles/humans/solar-weather-technique_1296.html
Presently, the sunspot cyle is at an end and guess what? 2007 was globally a whopping .7 degrees celcius colder and the winter of 2008 was record cold and snowy across the northern hemisphere. You can check the daily sunspot scenario on Spaceweather.com and right now there aren’t any.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature%2BMonitors%2BReport%2BWorldwide%2BGlobal%2BCooling/article10866.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557209&in_page_id=1770
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/040408_cools_off.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=563104&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-5013480,00.html
What’s also happenng in natural cycles that’s not being talked about has to do with the 2012 phenomenon. In 2012, our solar system and the earth will pass through the ecliptic of our galaxy. The ecliptic is basically the spiral disc of matter, solar systems and stars that spins out from the center of the Galaxy and has the highest concentration of cosmic rays eminating from the center of the Galaxy as anywhere. This once every 26000 year occurrance has us more bombarded with cosmic energy than ever before. No wonder the sun and all the planets are reacting so.
http://www.viewzone.com/Earth2012.jpg
http://www.viewzone.com/endtime.html
http://www.etheric.com/LaViolette/Predict.html
http://www.earthportals.com/Portal_Messenger/alignment2012.html
As the media keeps constantly telling us that some expert is blaming this storm and that on Global warming, what is it that the media doesn’t want us to know and isn’t tellling us about how man does affect the climate?
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking_news/story/483052.html
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/04/04/experts-no-link-between-hurricanes-and-global-warming.php
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356549,00.html
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.warming19may19,0,7702350.story
Deforestation has continued at an alarming rate but is hardly mentioned.
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1115-forests.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22970058/
Reality is we have actual government and military weather control programs that have been ongoing for years. We’ve all heard of cloud seeding to induce precipitation, but now we have airplanes spraying chemtrails flying grid paterns over North America and Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVc9GX5K_As
http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails
The biggest manmade threat to climate can be found near Gokona, Alaska and is known as HAARP. It is a giant array of elctromagnetic antennae designed to pump massive amounts of power up into the ionosphere to create plasma fields and holes amongst other things. Based on the technology of Nicolai Tesla and touted by the US Government as a purely research facility, it is actulally capable of producing mind numbing ELF radiation, disrupt global communications systems while creating a new one, and manipulating weather patterns. This is the Star Wars program in operation.The Russians have been at it for years and caused earthquakes because of their shenanigans.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9214
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InV0cVH6KZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkLTzesBxGE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvSbOnwnQ8&feature=related
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/navy-research-p.html
http://www.theecologist.org/archive_detail.asp?content_id=1215
http://www.haarp.net/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9225
Changes in peoples awarenesses, lifestyles and spending habits ultimately need to occur, but the right changes will never occur without the right information and reasons. Pollution, overconsumption and the destruction of the environment due to resource extraction must end one way or another. The earth is our life support system and functions great as long as humanity does not engage in anthropocentric philosophies that justify manipulating it. We as humans are inextricably intertwined with nature. Clean air and water are essentials to functionality and true prosperity and are human rights, not corporate, federal or trade agreement rights. Voluntary simplictiy is a great ideal for a society to uphold. Ironically and perhaps fatally, this is being forced upon the world by the Global Elite (i.e. Bilderbergers) at the same time our food supply and production, financial system and human rights are being undermined for the profits of a few.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2601
Technology itself is not the enemy. There is a another entire side to technology that is occult and kept that way intentionally. Technology has the potentioial of being 100% green but this has the implications of free-energy. Unlimited energy available to anyone for free? (that’s another can of worms) Interest free money. How ridiculously brotherly. That could never work..... NOT. There needs to abe a philosophical revolution that provides the clarity and impetus for natural, humanistic and unbiased efforts to regreen the planet and not artificiallly forced upon us by a control based scenario.
As a result, the 3rd world is not being allowed to develop and the phony peak oil scare and rising oil prices and food prices are crippling the poor and middle classes. The biofuel scenario is evidence of manipulation on a global scale when one realizes that we’ve been lied to all along. There will never be an oil shortage because oil is unlimited in the earth.
http://www.semp.us/publications/biot_reader.php?BiotID=182
http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html
http://www.gasresources.net/Introduction.htm
Now don’t get me wrong. All this is no excuse to be a mindless consumer and personally, I still don’t have a car or even a snowmobile but that is not the point. The point is I’m not gonna stop having fires in the backyard or breathing for that matter because CO2 is a completely natural and essential part of life here on Earth. In fact, the plants and animals we have today evolved from geological periods of incredibly high CO2 concentrations that man alone could never induce into the atmosphere. The ironic thing (and this should really get you going) is that increased CO2 levels could have great benefits to the world right now through the resulting increased vegetative processes i.e. food production. Why do you think people hook up CO2 to their growrooms? CO2 as a harmful substance is on the same level as Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and Al CIA-duh. Lies.
As skiers, we are seizing upon a unique window in the cycles of our planet where, the technological rise of civilization has met with a geo-climatic window of opportunity. In other epochs, the climate of the earth has been far too violent or glaciated to be able to venture into the mountains. The structure of our western civilization has both allowed us to not be preoccupied with survival and agricultural duties in order to pursue skiing but also created a social and technlogical buffer that insulates us from an undermines the integrity of the natural world. Many of us have travelled and skied in cultures where dedicated pursuit of powder skiing is practically and economically impossible. We also have a sensitivity to the qualities in the nature that cradles our gift of glisse because if it’s direct link to the forces of nature. As such we always adapt to the conditions. Ultimately, humanity must adapt to the environment as well, whichever way it decides to go. It is dangerous to think that we can alter the earth and it’s natural systems for the whims of geopolitics or it’s infantile perception of how things “should “ be. I would think it extremely dangerous to act in such an anthropocentric sense based on the asumption that man is responsible for warming the earth. Efforts to correct a false assumption would create results far worse.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/052008_warming_solution.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7172662.stm
The ski industry is largely comprised of corporate entities these days and the hysteria of Global Warming causes concerns because of one thing, profits. That is a huge reflection on the non-self sufficiency of our western society. Not many can afford to be riteous because they are dependant on money.At the moment we don’t see the industry taking real measures, like producing stuff in the west instead of China. It is only individuals at the grass roots level making skis in the garage. It is individuals that find the true freedom of the hills on their own power outside of the resorts. It is the individuals that make investments into life experience and quality without worry of financial gain. It is the philosophy of finance that corrupts the vision of society, that things can only be done for profit and not for the pure benefit and enjoyment of the local population. Again it all boils down to usury (lending money for profit) that is destroying the brotherhood of man and funding the puppet frontmen like Gore.
Now atheletes from everywalk of life including skiers and snowboarders are spewing about carbon footprints and CO2 stuff and jumping on the bandwagon, looking for sympathy and a way to fund their selfish exploits. Yes, mine are selfish too! Fine, the pursuit of bliss is a worthy and noble cause but if it propogates falsehood then it needs to be criticised. Our sympathies should not be abused nor should a correct understanding of the natural world be obfuscated by rash and impetuous zealousness.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/013117.html
Right now, the scenario doesnt look so bad for us skiers after such a fat snow year with record cold all over the northern hemisphere despite “the machine” pumping ever more CO2 into the atmosphere.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1702690,00.html?xid=feed-cnn-world
The arctic ice pack grew larger again this winter.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lynn-davidson/2008/02/16/western-greenland-ice-growing-still-global-warming
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/02/15/arctic-ice.html
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/antarctica-ice-cap-growth-reaches.html
http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/story/joliphant/2008/04/23/antarctic_getting_colder_now_has_largest_sea_ice_pack_on_record
Basically the climate on earth will always change and man, animal and vegetation will adapt or die as it always has as the waves of natural cycles pass over. Who knows, maybe the next Ice age could be sooner that we think.
http://www.iceagenow.com/
Regardless, I say we should adopt the same humility and acceptance to climate change as we do to snow conditions in general. Respect through PROPER education and awareness, not shortsighted hysteria. Go with the flow, not the hype. Be thankfull for the turns you’ve already had. Us furless monkeys with oversized brains are not the boss of everything!
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by mike1980 on Jun 18, 2008
Here is another good video on water power, this guy first invented a water powered blow torch/welder than used the technology to power his car. http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMovXzVOzc4
Here is another good video on water power, this guy first invented a water powered blow torch/welder than used the technology to power his car. http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMovXzVOzc4
by mike1980 on Jun 18, 2008
Hey this is great stuff, the water powered car blew my mind. I researched it a bit more on You Tube and found this great story on Stan Meyer, an American inventor who created the first water powered engine in the 80s, he had it patented and was able to convert his car to run on nothing but water. The US Army took over the patents and sure enough the next day Stan died of 'food poisoning'. This is one crazy conspiracy I never heard of, the technology has been around for so long but kept quiet, it makes me sick. This is a 2 part documentary (7 minutes each clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8stApCmxYEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h75_TGiwg78 Check it out, get educated, this should be front page news around the world.
Hey this is great stuff, the water powered car blew my mind. I researched it a bit more on You Tube and found this great story on Stan Meyer, an American inventor who created the first water powered engine in the 80s, he had it patented and was able to convert his car to run on nothing but water. The US Army took over the patents and sure enough the next day Stan died of 'food poisoning'. This is one crazy conspiracy I never heard of, the technology has been around for so long but kept quiet, it makes me sick. This is a 2 part documentary (7 minutes each clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8stApCmxYEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h75_TGiwg78 Check it out, get educated, this should be front page news around the world.
by Scottery on Jun 17, 2008
Another example of mass media and propaganda twisting real science sway public opinion for the gain a few... ever heard of eugenics? Not saying that this is on par with the theory of global warming, but it is a similar example and one that highlights catastrophic consequences. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics In short, eugenics is the philosophy of improving the human race through various forms of direct intervention. Intervention? Includes mild forms like selective breeding and birth control, but more radical ones include forced sterilization and even mass genocide. Indeed, it was the ´scientific theory´ of eugenics that helped to rationalize the holocaust. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics What I have found the most interesting about this is where the theory of eugenics originated. Common misconception (mine included) was that it began in Germany with Nazis. Actually, it was created (actually impacted society) by the greatest fear generation machine in the world: the United States of America. Calafornia had the most of the 64,000 forced sterilizations accross the country. These forced sterilizations were conducted under US legeslation upheld by the supreme court. This article is super interesting: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/09/ING9C2QSKB1.DTL Adbusters, independant media and blogs like this are needed in our world where mass media is controlled by a single corporation. Keep rockin in the free world!!! Scott
Another example of mass media and propaganda twisting real science sway public opinion for the gain a few... ever heard of eugenics? Not saying that this is on par with the theory of global warming, but it is a similar example and one that highlights catastrophic consequences. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics In short, eugenics is the philosophy of improving the human race through various forms of direct intervention. Intervention? Includes mild forms like selective breeding and birth control, but more radical ones include forced sterilization and even mass genocide. Indeed, it was the ´scientific theory´ of eugenics that helped to rationalize the holocaust. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics What I have found the most interesting about this is where the theory of eugenics originated. Common misconception (mine included) was that it began in Germany with Nazis. Actually, it was created (actually impacted society) by the greatest fear generation machine in the world: the United States of America. Calafornia had the most of the 64,000 forced sterilizations accross the country. These forced sterilizations were conducted under US legeslation upheld by the supreme court. This article is super interesting: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/09/ING9C2QSKB1.DTL Adbusters, independant media and blogs like this are needed in our world where mass media is controlled by a single corporation. Keep rockin in the free world!!! Scott
by ptor on Jun 17, 2008
I don't think there's anything wrong with personal profit (I'm not into communism!) and I agree there definately needs to be a new ethic in profit distribution and financial altruism but... capital and interest free money should be a like a public utility, a service provided by the government, not central banks that are privately owned and who ultimately enslave the world through debt on interest payments. I mean to say there should be no profit on money itself. Like us snow riders, we invest in ski gear knowing that it will not only bring us pleasure (be "usefull") but that it will also fall apart eventually and we will "lose" our investement. We are not always looking for a "financial" return on our investment and thus our action come more from the heart and not the cold act of buisness investment. I think Michael Moore is a pawn of the elite. I don't trust him. I personally look up to John Pilger and recommend watching his award winning documentaries on Google Video. Do not believe everything I say. Think for yourselves. Truth evolves. Begin your own search for understanding and question everything. My own beliefs will also evolve but opinion has to start somewhere. Good news on the oil/environment issue. The Japanese have made oil obsolete. Check out their new "water car"...... http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84561 Totemo sugoi!
I don't think there's anything wrong with personal profit (I'm not into communism!) and I agree there definately needs to be a new ethic in profit distribution and financial altruism but... capital and interest free money should be a like a public utility, a service provided by the government, not central banks that are privately owned and who ultimately enslave the world through debt on interest payments. I mean to say there should be no profit on money itself. Like us snow riders, we invest in ski gear knowing that it will not only bring us pleasure (be "usefull") but that it will also fall apart eventually and we will "lose" our investement. We are not always looking for a "financial" return on our investment and thus our action come more from the heart and not the cold act of buisness investment. I think Michael Moore is a pawn of the elite. I don't trust him. I personally look up to John Pilger and recommend watching his award winning documentaries on Google Video. Do not believe everything I say. Think for yourselves. Truth evolves. Begin your own search for understanding and question everything. My own beliefs will also evolve but opinion has to start somewhere. Good news on the oil/environment issue. The Japanese have made oil obsolete. Check out their new "water car"...... http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84561 Totemo sugoi!
by Down and Left on Jun 16, 2008
You have balls Ptor. I like it. Somewhere along the way the media and scammers made us forget the prime objective of scientific method - to remove all observer bias and allow reality to dictate outcomes. The Global Warming debate has none of that. Models and predictions and observations are NOT science; no more than blood vessels and gas trasfer = biology. Recent hstory is full of similar examples of part truths, hearsay and effective marketing pulling the wool over the eyes of the public. Take the "healthy diet" of the modern, western world as spouted by droves of mindless dieticians. There is never an apology for making lethal errors and misleading the punters and nor will there be from the Global Warming profiteers. When science discounting the theory comes up, they label it false and when that is no longer possible they will just change track enough to continue making money until the next big rip-off surfaces. "In theory, profit is produced when efficiency is evident and there always needs to be incentive for increased efficiency within a system". Possibly, but in reality profit is made by capitalising on vulnerability or need. Perhaps the only good thing about the whole global warming BS is the potential for job creation in an increasingly mechanised world. Thanks for speaking up for the minority of the population with the intelligence to see through the propaganda. Global Warming is an invention designed to create investment and profit for those in positions of power. It will be to the financial detriment of the common man and further divide humanity. It is the tool of profiteering scum and mindless minions. It is the margarine of the new milenium and just like that evil batch of chemicals it will change with the times, adding new "healthy" ingredients to hide the fact that it never, ever was about being good for US.
You have balls Ptor. I like it. Somewhere along the way the media and scammers made us forget the prime objective of scientific method - to remove all observer bias and allow reality to dictate outcomes. The Global Warming debate has none of that. Models and predictions and observations are NOT science; no more than blood vessels and gas trasfer = biology. Recent hstory is full of similar examples of part truths, hearsay and effective marketing pulling the wool over the eyes of the public. Take the "healthy diet" of the modern, western world as spouted by droves of mindless dieticians. There is never an apology for making lethal errors and misleading the punters and nor will there be from the Global Warming profiteers. When science discounting the theory comes up, they label it false and when that is no longer possible they will just change track enough to continue making money until the next big rip-off surfaces. "In theory, profit is produced when efficiency is evident and there always needs to be incentive for increased efficiency within a system". Possibly, but in reality profit is made by capitalising on vulnerability or need. Perhaps the only good thing about the whole global warming BS is the potential for job creation in an increasingly mechanised world. Thanks for speaking up for the minority of the population with the intelligence to see through the propaganda. Global Warming is an invention designed to create investment and profit for those in positions of power. It will be to the financial detriment of the common man and further divide humanity. It is the tool of profiteering scum and mindless minions. It is the margarine of the new milenium and just like that evil batch of chemicals it will change with the times, adding new "healthy" ingredients to hide the fact that it never, ever was about being good for US.
by Scottery on Jun 16, 2008
Tis intersting how them weather dudes cant figure out tomorrow´s sun or snow in a local location and they are trying to predict global temperatures... I would reckon that climate is imposible to predict and the ´preservation´ of environment is impossible to achieve. As Ptor said, shit changes! All humans can do is attempt to minimize our impact.
Tis intersting how them weather dudes cant figure out tomorrow´s sun or snow in a local location and they are trying to predict global temperatures... I would reckon that climate is imposible to predict and the ´preservation´ of environment is impossible to achieve. As Ptor said, shit changes! All humans can do is attempt to minimize our impact.
by Peakz on Jun 16, 2008
You're the Michael Moore of the ski world Ptor. I don't buy in to everything you said but there's some good points. When you have a Saudi prince saying oil prices are unjustified, you know there must be something that is wrong and I think you're right when you say hype is creating a feeding frenzy for oil profits. Profit however, in my opinion, should not be viewed as an enemy. Only the distribution of profit can be critiqued. In theory, profit is produced when efficiency is evident and there always needs to be incentive for increased efficiency within a system.
You're the Michael Moore of the ski world Ptor. I don't buy in to everything you said but there's some good points. When you have a Saudi prince saying oil prices are unjustified, you know there must be something that is wrong and I think you're right when you say hype is creating a feeding frenzy for oil profits. Profit however, in my opinion, should not be viewed as an enemy. Only the distribution of profit can be critiqued. In theory, profit is produced when efficiency is evident and there always needs to be incentive for increased efficiency within a system.
by ptor on Jun 16, 2008
Another mistake, Gore was VP to Clinton not Bush Sr. Too hasty and rash on my part and confused him with Dan Quayle but the sentiment still stands. Apologies once again.
Another mistake, Gore was VP to Clinton not Bush Sr. Too hasty and rash on my part and confused him with Dan Quayle but the sentiment still stands. Apologies once again.
by ptor on Jun 16, 2008
Ya gotta check out this one about the new light bulbs too!!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
Ya gotta check out this one about the new light bulbs too!!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg
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